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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (1)Sep 8, 2005, 10:46 pm

#61

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"In my last domestic flight in F out of SFO, I noticed one of the FA has a rainbow flag on his chest. "

Who Cares?

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (3)Sep 8, 2005, 10:54 pm

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Originally Posted by sfbarry

Unfortunately a lot of people do care. Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (4)

Very unfortunately. And thats why there is a no symbol rule. I admit it would be hard to be for breast cancer or a lot of other things. Most of us can agree that these are good causes.

But it is somewhat inappropriate in a place of business. There are places to make your views known and work is not one of them.

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (6)Sep 8, 2005, 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by ninerfan

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Thank you! The last thing this country needs is another cultural divide... this time between the pro-rainbow-pin people and the pro-all-FAs-should-look-the-same people (find some space on your bumper for yet another sticker).

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (8)Sep 8, 2005, 11:13 pm

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Originally Posted by flyinglan

And a person of color should bleach his or her skin and hair and be ashame of his or her identity. Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (9)
I guess you prefer to be served by robots who have no feelings/emotion.

You mean white people should dye their skin, right? If this was OMNI, and I had a lot of time, I could really open another discussion here...

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (11)Sep 8, 2005, 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by b33g

Being gay is more than just what happens in the bedroom.
Saying that is like me saying you should not hold your girlfriend's hand and let the world know that you are a couple, because that is just what happens in the bedroom.

Like heterosexual relationship, commitment is also an important aspect of gay relationship.

But that commitment has NOTHING to do with being a flight attendant on United Airlines. Absolutely nothing. I'm still not understand why its neccessary to wear it. Why would an F/A want to? The answer I've gotten so far is that it identifies themselves to other gay passengers, who feel more comfortable and 'can ONLY' have their needs met by a gay flight attendant.

I find that explanation unacceptable.

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (13)Sep 8, 2005, 11:20 pm

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Totally inappropriate.

If it ain't part of the uniform, it ain't going there.

As a customer, I don't want to see gay pins, straight pins, jesus pins, buddha pins, democrat pins, republican pins, younameit pins. Leave that at home.

As an employee, you don't have freedom of expression on company time.

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (15)Sep 9, 2005, 1:01 am

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Originally Posted by flyinglan

And a person of color should bleach his or her skin and hair and be ashame of his or her identity. Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (16)

Hmm Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (17) I thought we already covered Micheal Jackson. Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (18)

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (20)Sep 9, 2005, 1:50 am

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First of all, I thought it was very clear from the way it was written that the bit about the gay FAs knowing best how to tend to gay passengers was, you know, a joke. As in, not meant to be taken seriously.

Secondly, while I wouldn't necessarily have an issue w/ a no pins, no jewelry, etc., policy (assuming it really did bar everything, including wedding rings), the fact is that humans like to show off a little individuality. Check out any uniform-wearing situation, from a Catholic school to the military to a fast-food joint: People find ways to make the uniform their own w/in the confines of what's allowed -- there's usually more leeway for Catholic schoolgirls than for soldiers, but people still find ways. A tiny little pin on a uniform seems pretty damn harmless and a good way to boost morale, whether it's the religious person who wants to wear a symbol of their faith, a sports fanatic who wants to indicate that the Red Sox rule or a gay-friendly (wearing the rainbow flag does NOT mean you're gay, as someone said, anymore than wearing a pink ribbon means you have breast cancer) person wanting to indicate that they think all people should be accepted equally.

Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (22)Sep 9, 2005, 3:37 am

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Originally Posted by TeaAddict

Secondly, while I wouldn't necessarily have an issue w/ a no pins, no jewelry, etc., policy (assuming it really did bar everything, including wedding rings), the fact is that humans like to show off a little individuality. Check out any uniform-wearing situation, from a Catholic school to the military to a fast-food joint: People find ways to make the uniform their own w/in the confines of what's allowed .

All excellently said, TeaAddict, but specifically above: hairstyles, jewelry, makeup, facial hair- most uniform-situation policies allow variation in all of these facets of individuality, within their admittedly hard-to-define bounds of tastefullness.

Next time you fly, check out the FA's more closely, those of you who believe that everyone should look exactly the same and not be allowed to express their character or uniqueness. They are all very different- you can tell a whole lot about them by how they accessorize their uniform.

Personally I find it incredible that anyone in a forum of allegedly frequent fliers, who supposedly have travelled the world and experienced its immense and wonderful diversity, would, in this day and age, have the slightest, infinitesimal, noticeable adverse reaction to a rainbow pin.

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (24)Sep 9, 2005, 3:43 am

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Originally Posted by hurlimann

Personally I find it incredible that anyone in a forum of allegedly frequent fliers, who supposedly have travelled the world and experienced its immense and wonderful diversity, would, in this day and age, have the slightest, infinitesimal, noticeable adverse reaction to a rainbow pin.

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(For some reason, this computer is not letting me select Smilies?!?)

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (26)Sep 9, 2005, 5:33 am

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IIRC, those flag pins that cabin crew wear signify one thing and one thing only: they speak the language identified by the flag.

Just because someone wears a German flag does not mean that they are German, only that they speak German. Maybe the crew member wearing the rainbow flag was straight and could speak Gay?!? Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (27)

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (29)Sep 9, 2005, 5:43 am

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Oh thank goodness they're putting gay speakers back on each flight! It was so hard for many gay passengers without an interpreter.

Are the gay interpreters going to be flying all routes, or just routes to gay destinations?

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Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (31)Sep 9, 2005, 6:24 am

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Originally Posted by ILuvParis

Then I guess you'd be surprised to know that you don't have to be gay to wear the flag pin, you don't have to have AIDS to wear a red ribbon, you don't have to be female or have breast cancer to wear a pink ribbon, etc. Some people are supportive, others proud. I realize this is a separate issue from whether the pins are appropriate in the first place. But, I don't think it means the guy is "advertising."

That's a good point. I briefly dated a girl in college that had a rainbow pin on her backpack. When I first saw it, I thought she was gay, but I later asked about the pin and found out she wasn't. Her explanation for having the pin was that she had some gay friends and was supportive of the gay community.

My thoughts on the pin subject is that the pins don't bother me at all. I do agree with the people who call for an all-or-nothing policy. Either ban all pins, or allow them all, though I think a crew member wearing a swastika probably wouldn't be good for the company image.

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Originally Posted by hurlimann

Personally I find it incredible that anyone in a forum of allegedly frequent fliers, who supposedly have travelled the world and experienced its immense and wonderful diversity, would, in this day and age, have the slightest, infinitesimal, noticeable adverse reaction to a rainbow pin.

Oh, hurlimann,

you don't have access to OMNI yet (where this thread should be). Sadly, this board has quite a number of vociferous anti-rainbow members. Rainbow flag pin next to FA’s flying wing. - FlyerTalk Forums (40)

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